Beta 4: The caves and the castle

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676E786E66660F0 wrote: HARD

10080 - the spider & the scorpion do not come close together for Jack to make a clean jump.  He dies.

Yes, they do! Patience is a virtue.

676E786E66660F0 wrote: 10083 - see pic.  The fish is right under one of the bricks.  This definitely is a cheap death!!!

An easy jump if I may say so There is nothing

cheap

here since the players clearly sees the fish and must act accordingly.

[quote author=676E786E66660F0 link=1277450990/10#10 date=1278184735]10084 - The moving brick (horizontal) is way to fast for Jack to make a clean jump.  he dies a lot.

What moving brick?

[quote=676E786E66660F0]9685 - If Jack forgets to pull the lever & instead heads up & over to get the blue key, he can't get down without dying, to get to open the blue door.  not good.

Maybe it was intended this way The lever has nothing to do with this.

676E786E66660F0 wrote: 9485 -  If Jack is on the ledge above the green door & wants to get down to the floor level, he can't.  When he tries to jump onto the disappearing bricks, he ends up on the ledge above him.

Yes, he can! Try another approach!

676E786E66660F0 wrote: 9286 - The skeleton gets activated while Jack climbed the ladder to get the key, but he did not have another yellow key to open the 2nd yellow door.  Now he will die, as the skeleton is in the way down.  not good.

You are right - fixed.

676E786E66660F0 wrote: 9285 - I only knew of the green hidden key because I saw it in the MLB.  But my Jack still missed it by the way he was jumping.  NO ONE WILL KNOW THAT THERE IS A HIDDEN KEY HERE.  there should be a clue.

The key can be seen rotating behind the statue. I can easily jump for it.

676E786E66660F0 wrote: 9585 -
1) the grey brick under the ladder is practically invisible.
2) Going down the ladder, near the invisible brick, it is stuttery. 
3) Jack cannot continue the game as he can't get down, he is now stuck.
But, I will make an adjustment in MLB so that I can continue testing.

Sorry, but there is no room number 9585, so I don't know which room you are talking about. I'll assume you mean 9685: There is NO Jack-stuck in this room. Jack MUST go up to continue.

676E786E66660F0 wrote: 9886 - this room is so boringly slow.  those 2 horizontal moving bricks end up one on top of the other, making getting the money bag impossible. 
-also, waiting for the moving bricks to synchronize with the disappearing block makes me want to pull my hair out. 
-that disappearing block disappears way to fast.

I agree with you and have made some changes.

676E786E66660F0 wrote: 10287 - I think that this is suppose to be the 3rd save point, yet the pop up told me that this already exists and do I want to replace it.  I then checked my saves and it only shows 2 of them instead of 3.  Pls look into this. 

I'm not sure what you mean but there should be six saving points in mansion now.

676E786E66660F0 wrote: 10086 - there seems to be some sort of invisible step & wall under the gold coin on the main level.  it prevents Jack from going back.  if he could have seen it, then he would have made sure he did not have to back track.

Yes, Jack can go from right to left but not the other way. He does not have to backtrack anything, just jump

676E786E66660F0 wrote: 10087 - check the stairs pls.  jack can't seem to get thru to p/u the goodies.

10088 - same thing, check the stairs pls. can't get to the lever

Then try again! Really!

676E786E66660F0 wrote: 10290 - the scorpion & the one spider, it all happens so fast that jack has to die.

No, it doesn't! Try again. Note very closely how they move. Hint: A jump back may be the cure.

676E786E66660F0 wrote: 10089 - personally, i think that the fire lamps should be activated in this room and in the beginning of this section.

But then there is not hard anymore, is it?

676E786E66660F0 wrote: 9889 -
1)  entering this room from the ladder is definitely a cheap death trap!!!
2)  entering from the room on the right, also a death trap, the snakes are to close together, the spider coming down and the other thing.....yep a cheap death death trap, this whole thing.

Jack can easily avoid the trap when coming from below but the spider is too much and has been removed.

676E786E66660F0 wrote: 10090 - scorpions to close together to make a safe jump 1st time around. 

Fixed

676E786E66660F0 wrote: 10291
- jack dies in this room & reappears just below the room number, just above the hidden sign post....he is flashing....i can't make it out, but i think he is on a bat brick???, anyway, when i click any of the arrows, he drops to his death over and over again. the only way to keep him alive is to use the up arrow and hit the space bar at the same time.
- there should be a clue that there is a hidden red key, i thought is was a grey door opening and got distracted by the creatures, that i did not test to see if there was a ladder there.  i saw it in the mlb.

Yes, if Jack dies, he'll have to jump. Didn't you read the sign, which can clearly be seen behind the pillars?
The ladders in this room can also be seen behind the pillars. Jack HAS to open the door to the left to be able to finish the game and can't avoid to get the red key.

676E786E66660F0 wrote: 10292 - perhaps a layer problem?  watch where the skeleton dies.  it's way before the actual water & the sound of splashing.

Yes, I know. I have seen this before in mansions with lava and I don't know how to avoid this.

676E786E66660F0 wrote: 10094 - the sign could include

maybe it's Shangri-La?

I'll think about it

676E786E66660F0 wrote: How can one back track from the exit to get to a missing room 10491?  the bat brick is gone from room 10091

One can't 8-)

676E786E66660F0 wrote:
Anyway, great mansion, it does need some tweaking if you want a high percentage of people playing it.
I know, I know, the designers perogative to keep the design the way it is........what's the point of creating something the the majority can't enjoy, save for the rare person.  This never made any sense to me.

THERE SHOULD BE MORE SAVES......PERIOD!!!

And there are now. Thanks a lot for your testing.