Beta 5 Download

[rose]

This might not be changed but I still find the music to loud compared to Sound effects.

[VernJensen]

Right, I haven't done anything about music volume yet.

[VernJensen]

4954485E3B0 wrote: I am getting nervous about this. I think I use lever jump in original mansion on non moving ground to get away from spider and such near a lever I pull. I think I use it anyway!

No worries, you CAN use the lever jump as long as you are *still* on solid ground immediately after having pulled the lever. The only thing this affects is when the lever is on a gold/silver block, and the gold/silver block you are standing on disappears once you've pulled the lever. In that case, Jack can't jump right after pulling the lever, in built-in mansions. He was never supposed to be able to do this.

[VernJensen]

217D2F274C0 wrote: 1. It's not a good idea to make instructions confusing. I wish Vern, that you'd uploaded a fixed B5.

2. I followed instructions exactly. Four times.

3. the 4th time I threw out the whole Actionsoft folder from Application Support, it worked. The app opened.

thanks to Scirocco for being supportive on IM while I got progressively more pissed off.  Beta testing doesn't have to be easy, but it shouldn't be perilous.

Sorry mick. I had assumed you'd wait until I could upload a fixed version. I worked all day yesterday ripping out old sound code plugging in a new sound system, so the mikmod thing wouldn't be required anymore, and the popping issue would be fixed... only to discover that the new sound system has issues of its own... all sound effects play 0.2 seconds after they are supposed to. Aaaargh!

I'm going to be looking into using *another* sound ssystem. But the fixed beta will be delayed until that can get done. If you don't have beta 5 working, please just wait for a new version... even if it means waiting a few days. I don't want any of you to get frustrated!

[VernJensen]

5B666B5A6C6C6E6C65090 wrote: [s]My original concern remains (stationary moving platform with activating lever on top). The more I think about it, though, the more I think it shouldn't be affected.

Only gold/silver blocks are affected. As long as Jack has solid ground under him *after* he's done pulling the lever, he can still do the lever jump, even in built-in mansions. Only if ground has disappeared while pulling the lever will he be unable to jump.

[VernJensen]

4F727F4E78787A78711D0 wrote: Seems to work fine - except for within Options dialog. Also, if you minimize the game while viewing the Options, you won't be able to get the game back again. At least, not easily. I was able to get it back using exposé.

Rob, are you sure this is related to the Options dialog? There is a known bug where if you minimize the game, and click on the Midnight Mansion app icon in the dock to bring it back, nothing will happen. You have to instead click on the icon of the minimized game window (far-right of the dock) to bring it back. Does this not work for you in some situation? Otherwise, it's a known issue.

[VernJensen]

4D707D4C7A7A787A731F0 wrote: I thought the main use was that while Jack is pulling the lever he doesn't fall. So you could put a lever above a falling platform. By the time the animation was finished, the platform would be gone, but Jack could still get in one last jump - from the lever.

You could also have strange scenarios where the lever could be mid-air and a moving platform could briefly pass it allowing Jack, if he's quick, to pull the lever, and still get in a jump because of the quirk - hopefully to safety.

Who reported this one, Vern? This was something I had initially used in MM II, then pulled out. I wouldn't be surprised if one or two custom mansions used this quirk. Update: Even if they do, it doesn't matter since this only applies to built-in mansions.

Hmm, okay I guess you are right -- these two scenarios would be affected a well. Not just gold/silver blocks.

Why? Because the game does NOT teach players how to do this, so no one should ever be expected to do it. No built-in mansions should ever require it, or have an advantage to doing it. Therefore, it should not be allowed.

[VernJensen]

665B56675151535158340 wrote: Vern: one thing that concerns me a little bit, though, and I'm going to test it out in a few moments. There are several cases in MM2 where moving platforms (resting on the ground) have a lever above them to start the platform - this is done because the platforms can leave the room. Have you checked to be sure that this change doesn't affect that? It shouldn't, but it's worth checking.

Should be totally unaffected.

[brell]

6373646D6D010 wrote: [quote author=7D4E5945614E45584E452B0 link=1311837669/0#0 date=1311837669]
- Your custom mansions folder should now be called

Midnight Mansion HD Custom Mansions

OK.  I renamed my custom mansions folder to

Midnight Mansion HD Custom Mansions

.  I just tried to open a CM save and got this message:

The mansion file 'Midnight mazes and monsters' could not be found. Please make sure this mansion is inside the custom mansions folder and try again

.

I get the same error message if I change the name of the folder back to

Custom Mansions

.

So, it seems that I am unable to open custom mansion saves.
Am I the only one having this problem?

[RobSeegel]

4050474E4E220 wrote: Am I the only one having this problem?

Most likely, not. I haven't specifically tested it yet. I plan to try it out this evening.