Beta 3: The caves and the castle

[VernJensen]

Post here for comments about the custom mansion The caves and the castle.

[Semi-Native]

Easy

Only one problem found. Difficulty level is good for easy, I think.

10678 (all levels, I think) - If Jack accidentally touches the blue batmobile after he reaches the top level of the inner part (to go and pull the lever), it will go down and he'll have to die to get out. Don't know if you'd want to change this, since it's a custom mansion.

[Semi-Native]

Normal

11478 The helpful troll pulling the lever only changes the torch flames. In Easy, there was a Save pedestal that appeared. The troll doesn't seem to have much purpose in Normal, unless I'm missing something.

11080 The lever and BBB are so close together, it's hard to read the BBB instead of pulling the lever. Jack has to move far enough left, and there's not a lot of room.

The missing ladder jump ability affects these rooms:
10288 Jack can't get down to the bottom
10289 Jack can't get back up
10491 Jack can't get back up

[Semi-Native]

Hard

12076  When Jack reenters the room from the bottom right, the spider at the bottom right kills him instantly. Cheap death.

Ladder jumps being gone affect these rooms:

12274  two ladders
11680
11479
11078  behind barrel
11278
10684
10484
10284  on the level with the doors
9886
10288
10487
10289
9492
10491

[brell]

685E565216755A4F524D5E3B0 wrote: Easy

Only one problem found. Difficulty level is good for easy, I think.

10678 (all levels, I think) - If Jack accidentally touches the blue batmobile after he reaches the top level of the inner part (to go and pull the lever), it will go down and he'll have to die to get out. Don't know if you'd want to change this, since it's a custom mansion.

Partly fixed by moving the platform further to the left so Jack will never do this accidentally.

[brell]

4C7A727632517E6B76697A1F0 wrote: Normal

11478 The helpful troll pulling the lever only changes the torch flames. In Easy, there was a Save pedestal that appeared. The troll doesn't seem to have much purpose in Normal, unless I'm missing something.

The hermit was mainly put in that room as a

decor

and it actually does nothing but turning the light on/off in both easy and normal version. The save pedestal appears in the easy version because Jack goes for the backpack.

4C7A727632517E6B76697A1F0 wrote: Normal
11080  The lever and BBB are so close together, it's hard to read the BBB instead of pulling the lever. Jack has to move far enough left, and there's not a lot of room.

Fixed

4C7A727632517E6B76697A1F0 wrote: Normal
The missing ladder jump ability affects these rooms:
10288  Jack can't get down to the bottom
10289  Jack can't get back up
10491  Jack can't get back up

Will be fixed automatically after next update when the ladderjump will be optional.

[brell]

695F575317745B4E534C5F3A0 wrote: Hard

12076  When Jack reenters the room from the bottom right, the spider at the bottom right kills him instantly. Cheap death.

Now I must disagree. Jack has passed the spider through the red door in the next room. He has room to walk back and wait for spider to bounce before going on - unless he forgets the spider

[Semi-Native]

4151464F4F230 wrote: [quote author=695F575317745B4E534C5F3A0 link=1273798602/3#3 date=1274820998]Hard

12076  When Jack reenters the room from the bottom right, the spider at the bottom right kills him instantly. Cheap death.

Now I must disagree.  Jack has passed the spider through the red door in the next room.  He has room to walk back and wait for spider to bounce before going on - unless he forgets the spider 
Yes, my Jack is very forgetful.

[VernJensen]

497F777337547B6E736C7F1A0 wrote: Easy

Only one problem found. Difficulty level is good for easy, I think.

10678 (all levels, I think) - If Jack accidentally touches the blue batmobile after he reaches the top level of the inner part (to go and pull the lever), it will go down and he'll have to die to get out. Don't know if you'd want to change this, since it's a custom mansion.

Note sure if you already changed this Brell, but presumably beta 4's new platform features will fix this.

[VernJensen]

Even though ladders jumps are now an allowable option for custom mansions, I don't think any mansions that come with the game should use them. Since this mansion comes with the game, I'd prefer for it to not require ladder jumps, esp. since it is not documented anywhere.

52646C682C4F6075687764010 wrote: Hard

12076  When Jack reenters the room from the bottom right, the spider at the bottom right kills him instantly. Cheap death.

Ladder jumps being gone affect these rooms:

12274  two ladders
11680
11479
11078  behind barrel
11278
10684
10484
10284  on the level with the doors
9886
10288
10487
10289
9492
10491