MM for PC's ???

[Mikee]

Sandy,

Look at your posts! You make always at end of your posts a smiley That can I too! 8-)

Mikee [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] [smiley=happy.gif]

[ryos]

Wasn't there a version of MM that ran on OS 9? SheepShaver is a cross-platform (Runs on Mac, Windows, Linux) Classic Mac OS emulator/virtual machine. You need a few things to get it up and running, but once you've collected those it works fairly well. Performance is pretty good on my Intel Mac, all things considered.

If you want help getting SheepShaver to run send me a PM and I'd be happy to help.

I've also heard of people getting OS X to run in VMware for Windows. You could probably find a VMware image that would run in the free VMware player if you looked in the right (dark, seedy) corners of the Internet.

[Wingy]

I right-clicked MM, and selected

Show file contents.

In /Midnight mansion PPC.app/Contents/MacOS/ there is a file of MM for Mac OS 9. So, obviously, if you have a non-intel based mac, and you start in OS 9, you just go to where you keep MM on the OS X side, and double-click Midnight Mansion when you usually boot it up. It should work. The MM PPC application works on both OS X and OS 9, when you double click the PPC version in the MM folder. The PPC version only came out in 1.1.0 I think.

[ryos]

If you look at the

Downloads

page, it lets you download MM 1.0.3 which was the last version of MM for OS 9. I'm downloading it now to see if it will run in SheepShaver.

[ryos]

...So, I just tried it. Turns out MM for OS 9 requires OS 9.1, which SheepShaver can't run (it tops out at OS 9.0.4). So, that's a dead end. It was such a promising lead, too.

[SandyBean]

Thanks Ryos and Wingy for trying so hard to see if it would work, since the above stuff read like Greek to me !!!  (Total Computer Newbie)

I guess my niece and Grand nieces will just have to wait until they get an iMac to play MM, and then, boy won't they be pleased (on both counts)!!!

Thanks again so much,

SandyBean [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]

[ryos]

Lookee what I did...mwahahaha!

What you see there is, in fact, Midnight Mansion running under a virtualized instance of Mac OS X 10.4.10 running inside VMware Fusion. I managed to acquire a pre-built VMware image so I wouldn't have to do any of the hacking myself. I also haven't tested the image under Windows, but since it works in Fusion it ought to work in VMware player as well.

Oh, and the game is tragically, unplayably slow. Did I mention that? Yeah, check out the frame rate. You thought Freddy's

Moon

level was bad? I guarantee you, this is worse. MUCH WORSE.

So, alas, my two great ideas have come to naught. It was fun to try anyway.

If Apple were to officially allow virtualization of Mac OS X, both VMware and Parallels would modify their software to vastly improve the experience. Maybe then MM would run. Unfortunately, if this day ever comes, it will be far in the future. I'm not holding my breath.

As it stands now, virtualized Mac OS X is a novelty created by clever hackers, but not very useful beyond that.

[Wingy]

I guess I know why that you can barely run Mac on Windows Mode. Apple probably put some anti-virtualize stuff in its base-code so... it just won't run, fast enough, at least. Thats the message. Don't buy a windows computer to run Mac, just buy a mac.

E-bay has some pretty good Mac junk, er- I mean,

antiques.

If you just want a $100 thing that runs MM, then go check E-bay out.

(HINT: Don't get anything thats older then 1987)

By the way, Ryos, I had windows on my computer.... I would've loved to see some people

try

to run Mac on windows, but, *sigh* alas, Mac is in the world's best Personal Computer. I even think Linux is better, seriously. I had to delete windows because... I opened my web brower to see if the Internet was working, BAM 3 downloads 1,300 virus' on my Windows side. I had to erase it all.

And how many times have I gotten a Virus before on my Mac? *sigh* Too bad, Windows, 0.

[ryos]

Actually, it's nothing so sinister as that. VMware does a pretty good job of creating a virtual computer for your guest OSs to run on, but for a really smooth experience, you need optimized drivers and other bits installed in the guest OS. This affects everything from mouse movement to (most important) graphics performance.

Windows runs similarly slowly until you install VMware tools. The difference is, Windows XP's graphics API (GDI) is not nearly so GPU-intensive as Quartz, so you don't notice the slowness quite so much as with a virtualized Mac OS X. I bet Windows Vista would also be quite slow without VMware tools, but I haven't tried it yet.

VMware provides tools for a huge number of OSs, from Windows to Solaris to several Linuxes. If Apple were to allow it, they would surely write tools for OS X as well, but Apple wants to sell hardware and, thus, doesn't want people virtualizing OS X on El Cheapo commodity hardware.

[Freddy]

:-? After Greek, we got some lessons in Latin! ;D