Snow Leopard?

[Cowboyonamac]

I got a brand spankin' new MacBook Pro at the end of August. Three days later Apple sent me a Snow Leopard upgrade disc and I installed it.

MM works just fine under Snow Leopard but... (and this is a biggie for me)

The Mansion Builder application is nothing but trouble now.

Every time I tried to use it (I've stopped for now) I would open a room. I can draw everything I want, but as soon as I try to set room or mansion options or save the room, OS X shuts down almost completely. What happens is it goes to the aqua blue screen, and the back to the login window. It doesn't fully reboot, but every app that was open is shut down abruptly, and I have to log back in and reopen anything I was running.
This entire system is only two months old, aside from Office and Adobe Creative Suite Which I need for work, iLife and MM are all I have on it.

[Wingy]

Midnight Mansion is working fine if you're using the Intel version, correct? Not the PPC one.

The Builder doesn't have an Intel Version, its just a old Mac OS X App.

The way to make older OS X applications work you'd need Rosetta. There are two ways of obtaining this:

1. Install it off your Snow Leopard disc with the optional installs.
2. If you try launching a PPC application and it will ask you to download it.

Now it looks like the Builder app might not be too too old for it to not run at all, and the computer thinks it could run it, so it sortof works.

Install Rosetta by launching an older Application or from the disc, and I hope it will work. I did that and haven't run in to any problems with any applications yet.

(Try launching the PPC version of the game and see if that will launch or ask you to install Rosetta. It might just sortof run like the builder.)

For more information on Rosetta and Snow Leopard, check out:http://www.mariasguides.com/2009/09/02/snow-leopard-and-rosetta/

[VernJensen]

Both Midnight Mansion and the Level Builder are PPC apps. The

Intel

version merely runs better under Rosetta than the PPC version. But both are old PPC code.

That's a bummer to hear about the level editor bombing on Snow Leopard. I've upgraded myself now, so I'll have to try that. Can anyone else duplicate this on Snow Leopard?

[brell]

I am running 10.6.1 on my Intel iMac. The builder works just fine.

Wingy, isn't there a flaw in your theory? If he hasn't got Rosetta installed, then the builder wouldn't run at all, right?

But of course I may be wrong. Has happened once or twice

Cowboy, did you install Rosetta (in optional installs) from your Snow Leopard disk? It has to be installed separately. Anybody have a clue why Apple chose this weird approach?

[VernJensen]

brell wrote: Anybody have a clue why Apple chose this weird approach?

[Raises hand]

I do. Apple is always trying to kill old technology and force people to upgrade. I am guessing that with 10.7, they will stop including Rosetta entirely.

Their approach is a constant pain to developers like me.

[Cowboyonamac]

I did the Rosetta Install when I did the upgrade. I downloaded a fresh copy of MM and I only kept the Intel version. It's weird that I can open the app, open a room, and make all sorts of changes to the room, but only when I try to save it or set options, does it crash my OS.

[Wingy]

I'm running a Macbook too Cowboy. If it isn't that you just don't have Rosetta, maybe you should check if you have 10.6.1? That's what I have and haven't run into any issues.

Also trying rebooting your computer and just try again, see what happens. Re-download MM, paste the applications over the ones you have, see what happens. Be creative, whenever I have a problem, I just open all the doors that might lead to something.

By the way Brell, maybe the PPC version isn't quite too old, I'm assuming, and the computer just thinks it can run it? I'm not sure, computers do stuff like that.

[VernJensen]

He's probably better off waiting for OS X 10.6.2 to come out -- there is likely an incompatibility in Rosetta. Do you get any crash logs? I think there's a program you can launch that can show all past crash logs.... but I'm forgetting what it is at the moment.

[brell]

I just tried editing and saving in the builder on my intel MacBook pro at work. Mac OS X 10.6.1. No problems. So this is hardly an incompability issue beween MM builder and Snow Leopard.

But cowboy: Do you have Snow L version 10.6.0? If so, upgrade to 10.6.1.

[rose]

Also do a Repair Permissions!