Beta 4: General Discussion

[VernJensen]

464F594F47472E0 wrote: Designers, what's the point of asking for input from the beta testers if you all hide behind the designers (oh, what do you all call it?) something or other rights to design.

Players will make the same complaints about the same issues we find, and you all just keep with this ILLOGICAL THOUGHT OF (oh, what's that word?) DESIGN RIGHTS.

THANK GOD VERN DOES NOT USE THAT LOGIC WHEN HE MARKETS HIS GAMES FOR SALE.  That logic just does not fly in the real business world.

The beta testers rule book should state to ONLY look for Jack Stucks & Layer problems.......all other comments will be ignored due to designers rights, regardless of how nonsensical the play is!

There, I have finally said my piece.....I do not intend to get into a rebuttal over this. 

Okay, whoa, let's slow down here.

First, what Anthony said is correct: the designers do listen to ALL input from testers, but that does *not* mean we'll make changes. For example Missy, sometimes you've suggested I change things because they are

too hard

but in reality they are puzzles. For instance, a skeleton in Blackheart Keep that wakes up

too soon

but in reality the player is meant to climb the ladder into the room above, THEN come back and get the gold coins. It's a puzzle, not a bug. But I don't have time to explain every little thing in response.

In any case, I'd rather keep messages like this out of the forums... they tend to create a negative atmosphere, and might come across more harshly than intended. So let's do this instead: please *email me directly* if you feel any sections in the built-in mansions are too hard, or too weird, or anything that shouldn't be in a built-in mansion. I will look into it myself. I haven't had the time to follow all the messages on here, so I've mostly been following the ones for the mansions I've been modifying, meaning I haven't read much of the messages for Toybox's or Anthony's mansions, or Brell's or AquaMat's. I haven't played many of these mansions through to the end either, so there could easily be things in them that I'd consider bad for a standard mansion to contain. So if you feel that's the case, please email me specific room numbers, and I'll look into it.

Also, regarding Anthony's mention of a ban for a day or two: he was apparently referring to the use of God's name in a way the might be offensive to some. I think his mention of the ban might have been bad timing and come across the wrong way. I would support the notion that we should avoid using God's name in a way that might offend some, just as using swearwords might offend others... but yeah, Anthony's timing for mentioning this was probably not the best.

So in recap: if you have anything that you want to post in regards to beta testing that might come across as being harsh to someone, please *email me directly* about it, and I'll handle it personally. Thanks!