08-18-2010, 03:29 AM
52646C682C4F6075687764010 wrote: Okay, finally finished the hard version with 93% secrets (or 95%, I forget).
16304 I had 5 yellow keys, 1 green, 1 blue, 1 purple. I couldn't pick up the red key, so I traveled right to 16309 to use a key but had to leave the other 2 there, of course. When I got back to 16304, I jumped down to get the red key, but now Jack is stuck because the brick didn't come down for him to jump on. The lever is set to be used only once. See pic. (The reason I had the purple was because at first, I chose not to use the purple in 15102 - I didn't feel like working that hard just to get a money bag - but I eventually did so I could get rid of that key)
17099 Same key dilemma - no room to pick up both keys. It's a pain to have to travel all over the place to get rid of keys, then come back to pick up some more.
Yes - the deal with the keys is critical. I knew the yellow keys would be tricky. My better times through the mansion were when I left the following yellow keys until I was picking up the nearby green keys: 15900, 16499, 16897.
Of course, your first time through you have no way of knowing how the situation with keys.
I was interested that the purple key seemed optional, because it wasn't intended to be. I tried to make it so that you'd have been forced to dump that key long before you had the issues you're experiencing. After looking, I see where the problem is in 15303. I made a few mods in the following screens:
* 15102: Added more treasure in this room to soften the blow of coming through here. Also sped up one of the creatures, so that it's now possible to get both with a single run. This room should be the only way of getting to the red key for the zapper rooms, which should help later on with keys.
* 15103: Widened the ghost platforms; should go a long ways towards making this room easier.
* 15303: levers moved. It's no longer possible to get through this maze without going through the purple door; I tried to balance it a little by widening two of the disappearing platforms.
* 15704: went back and tried to ensure that platforms only move the first time through here. It won't matter whether or not zappers work if the platforms don't move.
Rather than start from the beginning, try starting from room 15303 and let me know what you think of these changes.
The one time lever in 16304 can now be used as many times as you wish. Something else I'm considering... what do you think about replacing the red door/key with a gray door that uses no key? On one hand I kind of hate to do that, because the key makes it pretty clear what needs to happen in the room at a glance, but there are other ways of doing that as well.
I'll put out the update tonight.