07-29-2010, 07:41 AM
15302 Jack can't climb down from the Save pedestal.
Fixed.
15303 Middle ladder doesn't go to top of bricks. Jack falls and dies. Also, the 2nd from the right lever can't be pulled without Jack getting zapped.
Fixed.
15303 and 15304 Gray doors are closed. How do they open? Jack can't proceed, I don't think.
I'm disappointed by this, I was sure it was tested. for 15303, there are two gray doors and two brown levers, the one up top was intended to open the door on the right.
For 15304, the door that didn't open, was supposed to be opened by the bottom right lever that didn't do anything. The intent here was that Jack had gotten through the zappers only to have to get the purple key and backtrack (through the still activated zappers) to the previous room, pull the lever, and then go back through the zappers one last time. both cases fixed.
15305 Should the top lever open the gray door? Also, a key is indicated but I never found it.
Yes about the gray door - fixed.
15501 Too hard. Maybe get rid of the top zapper beam so Jack can jump on the right top ledge. If he doesn't time his step off just right, he falls. Also maybe slow down the yellow platforms a bit to give him a better chance of jumping to safety.
Heh... I loved this room. Mostly because it ended up serving as a key example that influenced me in many others areas in the mansion, by answering the simple question of how do you make a hard room harder, but still keep it fundamentally the same. You find some way of forcing Jack to encounter its dangers multiple times. That basic idea is used in many places throughout the mansion.
As for changes, how about a compromise? I shortened the amount of time that the zappers are on (and may shorten it even more), and I added a conditional trigger on that last turn that will turn off the top zapper, but only after you've grabbed the gold coin on the last switch. The top zapper was ONLY intended to catch players jumping for the coins from the moving platforms.
How much slower would you recommend the platforms be? Incidentally, the details of why it was too hard were invaluable. fixed, but I won't be opposed to further mods here.
15503 Rightmost ladder is not lined up evenly between this room and the one above.
Should it be? Not sure I understand this comment. The two ladders are in the same position in both rooms, but it might not look that way due to the thinner walls in the upper level room. I made the wall a bit thicker.
15505 Jack jumped right off the blue bat platform to see if there was a key behind the wall, since one was indicated. He fell down into the blue section (15705, I think), slid down the pole, walked right and fell to his death (uneven floor?). Silver bricks were on to the right when he fell, so I don't think he could have gone anywhere anyway.
I never counted on Jack dropping through the ceiling like that much less surviving the trip. I believe Jack fell because of the silver wall in the next room. When I removed the wall, there were no problems. Other than by dropping in, I don't believe Jack could have gotten there like this. I'll put a silver wall in this room as well, to prevent Jack from going next door. Also, I'll put a zapper in the room above to discourage jumpers.
The keys formed by money just point to an unhealthy preoccupation with keys - nothing more. I'll use a BBB or two to explain it away.
15505 Key indicated, but I couldn't find it.
Nope... in this level of the mansion, Dr. D has a preoccupation with keys, with a firm views on how they should be used. Hence the shape of his vault... I'll address this with a BBB, based on your comments.
15703 Sound and sparkles persist even after everything is collected. This happened in another mansion, too. Some kind of glitch in the game, I guess.
Hmm that's strange. I wonder if it has anything to do with the giant spiders?
15704 I've been all over the top zapper section but I only have 2 red keys. I don't seem to have anywhere to go. For now, I'll just give myself a red key so I can proceed. But what am I missing?
Room 15300 is the way of getting there. If you ride the blue bat platform it will take you safely there.
15897 Upon getting ready to enter the room, got an error message about music file not in the folder. Didn't stop game play, but no music played from that point on.
looks like somehow an object id was entered as track number, which didn't work. Fixed. I'll be fixing the music all over once most of the fixes are in place.
15899 BBB says
Fixed, also slightly revised the text. Late night copy writing hasn't been working too well for me.
16100 When Jack re-enters from the right, the bouncing eyeballs are right there and he dies.
Moved the eyes.
17099 When Jack is walking on the white bricks at the top right, there are layer 6 brown tiles that he walks in back of. There doesn't seem to be anything there. Is this a mistake? Yep, well spotted. Fixed.
Despite the obvious issues with this area, it doesn't sound like it went too badly for you. This was one of my favorite sections. I enjoyed working with the zappers more than I expected.
Fixed.
15303 Middle ladder doesn't go to top of bricks. Jack falls and dies. Also, the 2nd from the right lever can't be pulled without Jack getting zapped.
Fixed.
15303 and 15304 Gray doors are closed. How do they open? Jack can't proceed, I don't think.
I'm disappointed by this, I was sure it was tested. for 15303, there are two gray doors and two brown levers, the one up top was intended to open the door on the right.
For 15304, the door that didn't open, was supposed to be opened by the bottom right lever that didn't do anything. The intent here was that Jack had gotten through the zappers only to have to get the purple key and backtrack (through the still activated zappers) to the previous room, pull the lever, and then go back through the zappers one last time. both cases fixed.
15305 Should the top lever open the gray door? Also, a key is indicated but I never found it.
Yes about the gray door - fixed.
15501 Too hard. Maybe get rid of the top zapper beam so Jack can jump on the right top ledge. If he doesn't time his step off just right, he falls. Also maybe slow down the yellow platforms a bit to give him a better chance of jumping to safety.
Heh... I loved this room. Mostly because it ended up serving as a key example that influenced me in many others areas in the mansion, by answering the simple question of how do you make a hard room harder, but still keep it fundamentally the same. You find some way of forcing Jack to encounter its dangers multiple times. That basic idea is used in many places throughout the mansion.
As for changes, how about a compromise? I shortened the amount of time that the zappers are on (and may shorten it even more), and I added a conditional trigger on that last turn that will turn off the top zapper, but only after you've grabbed the gold coin on the last switch. The top zapper was ONLY intended to catch players jumping for the coins from the moving platforms.
How much slower would you recommend the platforms be? Incidentally, the details of why it was too hard were invaluable. fixed, but I won't be opposed to further mods here.
15503 Rightmost ladder is not lined up evenly between this room and the one above.
Should it be? Not sure I understand this comment. The two ladders are in the same position in both rooms, but it might not look that way due to the thinner walls in the upper level room. I made the wall a bit thicker.
15505 Jack jumped right off the blue bat platform to see if there was a key behind the wall, since one was indicated. He fell down into the blue section (15705, I think), slid down the pole, walked right and fell to his death (uneven floor?). Silver bricks were on to the right when he fell, so I don't think he could have gone anywhere anyway.
I never counted on Jack dropping through the ceiling like that much less surviving the trip. I believe Jack fell because of the silver wall in the next room. When I removed the wall, there were no problems. Other than by dropping in, I don't believe Jack could have gotten there like this. I'll put a silver wall in this room as well, to prevent Jack from going next door. Also, I'll put a zapper in the room above to discourage jumpers.
The keys formed by money just point to an unhealthy preoccupation with keys - nothing more. I'll use a BBB or two to explain it away.
15505 Key indicated, but I couldn't find it.
Nope... in this level of the mansion, Dr. D has a preoccupation with keys, with a firm views on how they should be used. Hence the shape of his vault... I'll address this with a BBB, based on your comments.
15703 Sound and sparkles persist even after everything is collected. This happened in another mansion, too. Some kind of glitch in the game, I guess.
Hmm that's strange. I wonder if it has anything to do with the giant spiders?
15704 I've been all over the top zapper section but I only have 2 red keys. I don't seem to have anywhere to go. For now, I'll just give myself a red key so I can proceed. But what am I missing?
Room 15300 is the way of getting there. If you ride the blue bat platform it will take you safely there.
15897 Upon getting ready to enter the room, got an error message about music file not in the folder. Didn't stop game play, but no music played from that point on.
looks like somehow an object id was entered as track number, which didn't work. Fixed. I'll be fixing the music all over once most of the fixes are in place.
15899 BBB says
... he statueinstead of
the statue.
Fixed, also slightly revised the text. Late night copy writing hasn't been working too well for me.
16100 When Jack re-enters from the right, the bouncing eyeballs are right there and he dies.
Moved the eyes.
17099 When Jack is walking on the white bricks at the top right, there are layer 6 brown tiles that he walks in back of. There doesn't seem to be anything there. Is this a mistake? Yep, well spotted. Fixed.
Despite the obvious issues with this area, it doesn't sound like it went too badly for you. This was one of my favorite sections. I enjoyed working with the zappers more than I expected.