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Re: MM2 - Brave New World - Freddy - 02-05-2023
3727303939550 wrote: ... Used the multicolored key in the other blue room at the far left end of the mansion. Never found a key for the red door on the other far right end.
... There are no special remarks now, just that I find some rooms/areas close to hard.
... Missed an obvious gold coin in the room with two scorpions, one spider and an interesting ladderjump.
1. That is why I 'ordered' you to start in that specific gate that leads to the red door.
2. Yesterday I was very busy with downgrading things. Soon I post the upgrade with the downgrades.
8-)
3. Yes yes: the room with gold blocks, two candles and three vines.
;D
That is one of the many rooms that is already changed right. The jump from the left candle to the right is normal now, the upper coin is in a much easier position and a third scorpion is re-added, without making it hard I hope. Previously there was no middle vine what made it very hard.
:o
Re: MM2 - Brave New World - Freddy - 02-05-2023
Enclosed is version 010 of 'MM2 - BNW betatesting'.
Edited: for a currently unknown reason I can't upload this version with this post. It keeps on adding an older version. Pfff. I'll try to do it with a seperate post.
What did change?
PURPLE AREA
16300 -> removed the most annoying bird of the two
16301 -> added a background / made three jumps easier
15701 -> moved the lever to a safer place
16500 -> made the room purple
TRANSIT ZONE 1
Completely redesigned (see image) / three maps to show you the way / all gates open / four shields / less and more normal enemies / some money / exposing gold-silver in all six rooms
I still have my doubts about:
- the necessity of Elizabeth at the middle save pedestal
- the red kite in the middle upper room (too hard?)
BLUE AREA (with only one part finished)
I chose gate number 9 and opened a yellow door
17099 -> expansion
16698 -> finalized
17302 -> rearranged
17303 -> rearranged
17101 -> added a 4th saving point
In 16498 I detected that when Jack dies after pulling the lever with the green knot, lucky me, he reappears in the lower right (!) corner and is able to continue.
TRANSIT ZONE 2
17301 -> added / introducing a first MM2-enemy
MONEY
Perfect play leads to $ 13.350 (and no loss of six lives like in my case)
SECRETS
A lot to say about ...
:-X
Re: MM2 - Brave New World - Freddy - 02-06-2023
Posting the correct zip-file for the 10th version of MM2 - BNW betatesting.
Or not ??? :o Is it possible that it is the new file, but with the old name? Realy? The size (282 kb) is the size of version 10, not of version 9 ...
Re: MM2 - Brave New World - brell - 02-08-2023
The zip file downloaded as MM2-BNW_betatesting and opened my save correctly. However, since you made some changes in the first area, i decided to begin at the beginning once again.
I have already:
Finished the purple section. Liked the changes
Finished transit zone I, using the multicolor key on the blue door in the scorpions room, got the yellow key and finished the section where you get the purple key. Now I am going to use that key to get a red key (if I rememeber correctly) and go on from there, checking whether I can get all the keys in the blue rooms surrounding the transit zone I.
After that I will try another approach, beginning by going down the long ladder from the first transit zone room and use the multicolor key down there and see where that leads me.
This will take some time.
Enemies in transit zone I are easier now but not too easy.
More rapport later.
Re: MM2 - Brave New World - brell - 02-09-2023
OK, used the purple key to get the red key in #17000 but:
If I use the purple key in 17000 and get the red key, then I have to go back (backtrack) all the way to 16498 to change back to gold bricks. But I cannot go back from 16498, the only way is to move on back to 16499 and from there to 16501 but to do that I have to change back to silver bricks. Not quite a Jack-stuck but …
I am going to try the long ladder down to #17000 next.
16100 What if Jack does not pull the right lever? He will have a lot of baktracking
16301 Background good and in consistence with the rooms above. Jump changes good
17101 Tried a ladderjump (silver bricks off) but Jack died. Should have noticed it was 7 bricks high.
16499 Why is the left trapdoor needed?
16900 Shield is out of reach
16899 It is possible to reach the upper right ladder with gold bricks on, using a squirrel jump
16901 Elizabeth is very annoying
Re: MM2 - Brave New World - Freddy - 02-09-2023
Thanks, brell !
I will have a lot to do. [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]
For now I think I can assure you that your Jack is following an exhausting route. There is an alternative ...
:-X
Re: MM2 - Brave New World - Freddy - 02-09-2023
39293E37375B0 wrote: 16100 What if Jack does not pull the right lever? He will have a lot of baktracking
16301 Background good and in consistence with the rooms above. Jump changes good
17101 Tried a ladderjump (silver bricks off) but Jack died. Should have noticed it was 7 bricks high.
16499 Why is the left trapdoor needed?
16900 Shield is out of reach
16899 It is possible to reach the upper right ladder with gold bricks on, using a squirrel jump
16901 Elizabeth is very annoying
16100 If Midnight Mansion was Soccer then the VAR would say: clear error by the gamer.
Two levers, each for one of the grey doors. But the backtracking-penalty is not in proportion to the mistake, so I fixed it. See image 1. And will be seen in next update.
8-)
17101 That was supposed to be. No passing through with the silver blocks off.
16499 Oops. Was a leftover from the start of the designing. And since then I always pulled the lever, opened the trap door and jumped over the gap!?!!?
Fixed. See image 2.
16900 Sorry, it is within reach.
16899 I am grateful for reporting this issue. Fixed, but I prefer to make a better change as soon as I have enough time to do that.
16901 Elizabeth changed of gender! See image 3. You may call her/him Arthur. While Elizabeth was not really dangerous, she was indeed disturbing in a stubborn way. Arthur is more energetic and one to deal with. But only once!
8-)
39293E37375B0 wrote: OK, used the purple key to get the red key in #17000 but:My first reaction may be wrong. I can't know yet. It is best if you may clarify something for me. There is no room 17000. So in which rooms did you use the purple and tried to use the red key?
If I use the purple key in 17000 and get the red key, then I have to go back (backtrack) all the way to 16498 to change back to gold bricks. But I cannot go back from 16498, the only way is to move on back to 16499 and from there to 16501 but to do that I have to change back to silver bricks. Not quite a Jack-stuck but …
I am going to try the long ladder down to #17000 next.
Re: MM2 - Brave New World - Freddy - 02-10-2023
52667170706D140 wrote: ... In 16498 I detected that when Jack dies after pulling the lever with the green knot, lucky me, he reappears in the lower right (!) corner and is able to continue. ...
Last night I was suddenly very worried about this dark room, because I realized that if you know the way in there, it is possible to struggle through this room all in the dark. And then, when Jack changes the blocks from silver into gold and afterwards dies ... he reappears in the lower LEFT corner.
But lucky me it also didn't matter. Jack may continue as always.
Re: MM2 - Brave New World - Freddy - 02-10-2023
Please have a look at the attachment about attachments.
;D
My yesterday evening's post had three attached pictures. On my computer the filenames were: Afbeelding 1, Afbeelding 2 and Afbeelding 3. That means that all added underscores en numbers were made by the application from our boards.
My own logica tells me that it may have to do with previous posted files that has the same filenames.
And that probably explains the 'look' of the recently posted zipfile. Let's hope that it will never give problems with e.g. savings.
Re: MM2 - Brave New World - brell - 02-10-2023
093D2A2B2B364F0 wrote:My first reaction may be wrong. I can't know yet. It is best if you may clarify something for me. There is no room 17000. So in which rooms did you use the purple and tried to use the red key?
[quote author=39293E37375B0 link=1671814205/44#44 date=1675948262]OK, used the purple key to get the red key in #17000 but:
If I use the purple key in 17000 and get the red key, then I have to go back (backtrack) all the way to 16498 to change back to gold bricks. But I cannot go back from 16498, the only way is to move on back to 16499 and from there to 16501 but to do that I have to change back to silver bricks. Not quite a Jack-stuck but …
I am going to try the long ladder down to #17000 next.
Sorry, I meant room 17100.
In the first attempt after the first save I used the rainbow key on the blue door in the scorpion room and then, after getting the purple key, I used it in room 17100 to get the red key. This approach leads to a lot of backtracking as the silver bricks are on. The only way I see is to go down from room 17101 and take the
expressto the start/exit room and go from there to room 11100 (I think) to change to gold bricks again. But by then Jack will not have any key left.
BTW it is possible to use a bottom ladderjump in 17100 to get over the gold bricks. Is that intended?
In my second attempt I took the long ladder from 15100 down to 17100 and used the rainbow key to get the blue key. Then I used the transit zone 1 to exchange as many keys as possible, ending with another blue key. Only then I opened the door in the scorpions room and got the yellow key in the next room to the right (btw the 4 scorpions are too hard to avoid without any shields). Then I went for the purple key in #15102, finished the transit section and finally went down for the
expressback to
square one. This is IMO a much better approach but how is the player to know that beforehand?